June 2003 -
National Geographic News
Nick
Baker went along with eco-warriors on an armed hunt for Cambodia's
poachers—and finds a more complex story than he bargained for.
You went to Cambodia to
investigate poaching and illegal lumbering in that country—a situation
that's being battled in some places with almost military tactics. What's
going on there and how bad is the problem?
Cambodia is one of the few places in Southeast Asia
that still has a large amount of forest cover. Historically, of course,
the country has had a quite rocky past. But when the Khmer Rouge were in
power, people weren't going into the forest. The forests received some of
the best protection in the world because people were too scared to go into
them. With the Khmer Rouge gone the forests opened up and people turned to
them to try to survive.
When
people are so desperate you can't blame them. If someone took away all of
what you own, really everything, what would you do?
You'd do what they are doing—you'd go into the woods. I walked into this
assignment thinking that I would, as usual, be strictly an ardent defender
of conservation. But I ended up feeling very sad for the people. I want
the two to coexist. For the fist time in my life, I really can't see an
answer.
You
visited markets there and could see the fruits of the wildlife trade,
animals and animal products, for sale. Is that really the problem, or is
deeper?
It's an unknown. Nobody knows what's really going
on, the real extent of what's going on. Trading in all wildlife is illegal
in Cambodia. People have been stamping down on the trade in wildlife, but
it goes on as it always has. These animals are not always the kind of
animals we love. Frogs for example are not a species that will provoke an
outcry, like monkeys.
But the wildlife we
see in the small local markets is not the major problem. Deforestation is
the major problem and it's compounding all of the wildlife issues. The
raids we did (with the nongovernment organization WildAid) generally had
to do with logging. We didn't find a lot of the animal trade—which has
been driven underground somewhat.
You
went on military-style raids with WildAid, an NGO that's taking the fight
to poachers. What impressions did you get of their efforts?
We did travel with WildAid, and we also spoke to some poachers. The
conclusion we came to is that the paramilitary style of these eco-warriors
results really in just a tiny, tiny number of patrols in a tiny piece of
one national park. It's taken three to four years for them to get to the
current state and that state is really pretty useless. In some sense it's
like people playing soldiers with a justification for it. I mean, they are
doing something, and a lot of what they do is very good, but I'm not sure
how effective it can be.
Have
you ever been in a combat situation? These
poacher patrols are armed and the people they encounter can be heavily
armed as well.
Combat? (laughs) I'm a naturalist. I grew up in a nice quiet naturalist
way, you know, chasing bugs around the patio. The next thing I know I get
a call from National Geographic and I'm running around in a forest with
lots of guys with automatic weapons. It was very uncomfortable because I'm
not a gun person. I can see this thing escalating into an arms race;
that's how they start. People arm themselves to fight poachers and the
poachers up the ante, and it goes on. Before you know it people will be
dying out here again over a different issue.
WildAid
is largely funded by Western money. What kind of effort is the Cambodian
government making?
Well, environmental issues aren't too high up on the
Cambodian government's list at the moment. They're not high on anyone's
list really; look at America and the UK for example. How can we expect the
Cambodians to give a damn? It's very easy to superimpose Western ideals on
a country that's really struggling and shackled with a massive debt. I
don't believe you can do it. Yes, the government has to wake up and see
the problem or by the time they get the rest of it sorted out there will
be nothing left. But I don't know how you can make them do it.
The
trade animals you saw captured live, injured by snares, were just in
terrible shape. How tough is it for you as a naturalist to see them in
these conditions?
I'm a realistic naturalist. I find it patronizing
when you see people like myself out there telling people what should or
should not happen in areas where things have been going on for a long
time. Animal welfare is a different issue from animal conservation. In a
country with no refrigeration, they transport animals alive to keep them
fresh. For example, they move these ducks around on little motorbikes with
like 150 live ducks hanging off the back of the bike, banging off the
exhaust and the like. When you see that, especially in a country where the
people have done such horrific things to each other, you see that the
issue of suffering, animal or human, is so much part of their life. To
tell them that's wrong, well, you couldn't do it.
How
effective can any deterrents be, armed or otherwise, if people are in such
desperate straits?
These people are kind of reinventing themselves.
Many of these people have no forest experience. It's like you and me
saying "What have we got here that will help us somehow survive until
next week?" That's what they are doing… They've got nothing else.
WildAid is a very
hardcore group. When they catch poachers they take all of their kit, all
of their gear, and make them fingerprint a document that promises they
won't do it again. Well, we talked to the poachers and they say,
"this makes our life miserable." They take their equipment and a
single chainsaw might cost years of income. It might be all they have and
it hurts and it makes it very tough on them.
But still, these
people are caught multiple times. They may know the reasons why they
mustn't do this, but then come the next week there's no food or the kids
are sick. Where do they go? No matter how you threaten someone, when they
are at that level of desperation they have to keep doing it.
Cambodia
is not alone is it? This is a growing problem in lots of developing
countries?
It's not the first time I've seen it, but it's the
most extreme example I've seen of this kind of thing. I'm off to the Congo
next week and that part of the Africa has the same problems. In fact there
is much more organized and scary deforestation going on there, where they
are really destroying the forested belt of central Africa.
It's a
difficult dilemma, any solutions come to mind?
Not
really. It's a very complicated issue with lots of interlocking threads.
You've got to make up your own mind. I came away confused and with
questions that I never expected to have. I also came away a bit depressed
and without a lot of hope about this situation improving.
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April 2003
As the RWS kicks off this spring for its 18th series, Nick Baker, who
co-presents with Michaela Strachan and Elis Hewitt, reveals the highs and
lows of working with animals.
Describe
the Really Wild Show in under 10 words.
The bizness,
bringing wildlife into your front room.
Tell
us one secret that we don't already know about you.
When I was younger I had a crush on Michaela
but, having said that, name me a male who grew up in the Eighties that
didn't!
Moat
embarrassing broadcast moment ever?
Having a giant otter grab my wedding tackle
in its jawa after it had whipped off
my swimming trunks!
Which
animals do you currently have in your home?
Twenty-six
large constrictor snakes, a matamata (turtle), snapping turtle, alligator
snapping turtle, 80-plus tarantulas, scorpions, an axolotl (salamander),
African clawed frogs, both regular and dwarf, hissing cockroaches and
three medicinal leeches!”
Which
animals are you frightened of?
Only
humans!
Why
humans?
They
can be so short-sighted and destructive to each other and our own habitat.
Have
you overcome any fear of animals?
Yes,
except cameramen – they can be a little scary sometimes! Seriously
though, I do not have any fears, but I do have a healthy respect for many
creatures; it’s a totally different thing, although it doesn’t mean
you are never in a scary situation.
When
did you first become interested in wildlife?
I’ve
been into anything that creeps, crawls and flies since I was big enough to
say the word ant!
Favourite
animal from this series?
Basking
shark! Favourite moment with wildlife ever and all in the water off the
south coast of Britain!
Best
moment from filming?
The
basking shark was totally mindblowing as an experience, closely followed
by kayaking with killer whales.
Worst
moment from filming?
The
schedule can be gruelling and sometimes I would like more time to enjoy
the moment, rather than have to relive it when I finally see the
recordings… not really believing that what I’m seeing is me!
Hardest
journey during the series?
Walking
10 miles across semi-arid desert in search of black rhinos in Namibia. The
film crew, despite having to trek with all their heavy kit, didn’t
grumble once.
Any
moments that went a bit wrong?
We
never did get a good close shot of a proboscis monkey! They were all over
the place, posing in the trees and then, when we wanted to film them, they
were nowhere to be seen.We also got stuck in the mud in the mangrove
swamp, trying to track them down
.
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May 2002
- BBC Wildlife Magazine
Nick Baker in Brazil - Tales from the Bush: Nick's trip to the
Pantanal was going according to plan - until, that is, he saw the very
beast that the Really Wild Show had come to film.
You don't have to be an expert on jaguars to know that
getting even a glimpse of this big, yellow, spotty cat is a very, very
special moment. For a start, even where they are common, they are rare.
They need huge territories to meet their huge demand for food, and so
inevitably, they're pretty thinly spread. In addition, their eyesight,
hearing and sense of smell are all better than ours, their disruptively
patterned coat is brillant camourflage and they are very nervous of humans
because of our history of turning them into rugs and soft furnishings.
So when my Really Wild Show producer Lucy Bowden
enthusiastically informed me that we were going to the Pantanal to film
jaguars, I was instantly sceptical. My lack of confidence was further
embellished by the time scale. To achieve this task, that even a 'blue
chip' camera crew would find daunting, we had, not a year, not a month,
not even a week but just three short days.
"Not a cat's chance in hell," was probably
what our Brazilian tracker, a field naturalist who has walked Pantanal's
flooded landscape every day fort he padt 35 years, told us (I'm not
certain, my Portuguese is not what it was). He had only ever seen a jaguar
twice, and even then it was a quick eyeful as the famously spotted
backside melted off into the undergrowth.
I tried not to look pleased when, with reality dawning
on her, Lucy began to accept that we would have to find an ending to the
story that did not involve actually filming a jaguar. It's not that I
didn't want to see one - of course I did, I've been trying to see one in
the wild for years - but deep in my heart, I knew that we wouldn't.
We spent the next couple of days making a story about
jaguars which was based on the assumption that we wouldn't see one. Then,
on the last day, word got to us that some jaguar footprints had been seen
a little way upriver. It wasn't an actual jaguar , but it was, at least,
evidence that they were here, somewher, in this landscape.
To understand just how remarkable the next couple of
hours weer, you need to visualise the craft that we had hired. The
floating equivalent of a knackered doubledecker bus, it was 50-foot, flat
bottomed, squared hulled, top-heavy eyesore powered by a juddering,
deafening, diesel engine that continually belched black smoke. In this
boat, we weren't going to creep up on anything unnoticed, let alone a
jaguar.
We se off upriver, terrorising every living thing within
earshot, and filmed the footprints and an 'ending' to the film. It was as
we were making our way back that the cry of "jaguar" went up.
There was a short, heavily pregnant pause and then all hell broke loose
and all thought about being quiet went out of the window as we shouted to
the skipper, "There it is! Stop, stop!"
The cat, a male, stood calmly at the water's edge as if
he were watching the world's worst carnival float by. We were going too
fast, and even when the engines had been cut, our momentum took us well
past the point where the jaguar was standing. As the wash of the bow-wave
crashed ar out bemused jaguar's feet, the driver executed the most
painful, gear-mashing, 101-point turn I've ever witnessed and we went
back. Incredibly, as we made a second pass, the jaguar was still there
(and looking even more bemused than before). For the second time, we
careered past, and the exercise was repeated yet again, with the cat in
the same place. It was only on the fourth pass that he appeared to have
vanished.
Our skipper, now a jaguar expert, pointed out that
jaguars like water and are good swimmers. Feeling positive that we had
already pushed our luck too far, I foolishly broke one of my own personal
rules - never, ever voice your certainty about what a wild animal is about
to do next.
Sure enough, just as I had uttered the lines, "If
that cat so much as puts its big toes in the river, let alone swims across
it while we are messing about in this boat, I will take up
needlecraft," the jaguar immersed itself in the cool, muddy waters
and started to paddle its way over to the other side. And I have to say -
I never realised that blanket-stitch was quite so intricate.
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February 2000
- BBC Wildlife Magazine
South
Africa: Nick Baker is a naturalist and television presenter who has
travelled widely while making programmes such as The Really Wild Show and
Nick's Quest. South Africa is one of the locations he's chosen to visit as
a tourist.
Call
me lazy, but I figure if you don't have to trek miles at a huge discomfort
to yourself, why do it? Don't get me wrong, I'm well up for being a bit
'rufty tufty' in order to achieve a goal, especially if there is a
stonking wildlife experience to be had at the end of it, but...
This
thought was playing on my mind as the 50-tonne leviathan breached for the
fifth time in as many minutes. It had been a bad morning - the only seat
in the restaurant was facing the sun, the snoek was off the menu, and I'd
left the appropriate lens for my camera five minutes away from the
sea-front restaurant in which I was seated. Never mind. I was going
swimming with a great white shark in the afternoon.
It's
because of these two marine superstars - the southern right whale and the
great white - that the most southern tip of Africa will always be a
special place for me. The first time I saw a whale was here, seconds after
I had stepped out of the minibus at the world's whale-watching capital,
Hermanus. Seconds later, I had seen another and then another, until I lost
count. If you go during whale-watching season, leave plenty of spare time,
because they are addictive - a stroll before breakfast can result in a
search party being sent out for you several hours of sea-gazing later.
The
great white shark-watching is the best in the world. From Gansbaii (a
fishing town a little further east of Hermanus), you can be at Dyer Island
within half an hour and, though there are no guarantees, this is simply
the best place I know where you can see fish with a sports-car-like
appeal. Just go out on the boat and watch the sharks coming in, and it
will make your year. But if you have your diving qualifications, don a
snorkel and mask and get into a cage, when Carcharadon carcharias turns
up, it will change your life. Leave behind your fears - and any macho
tendencies - and reflect on the great white's stunning physique, polished
to perfection by millions of years of evolution.
The
sharks are here because of the rich marine life, all 10,000 species of it.
Here off the continental shelf, the turbulent teal waters of the Atlantic
and Indian oceans kiss. Nutrient-rich, upwelling Antarctic water travels
up the west coast, while the Agulhas Current brings down a tropical
flavour, and somewhere between Cape Point and Cape Agulhas, they are
shaken up into an oceanic cocktail. The high productivity is evident
everywhere - huge rubbery masses of kelp washed up on the beaches,
attracting swarms of sandhoppers and the birds that feed on them,
including the elegant African black oystercatcher.
Stare
into a rockpool, and it's like being a kid again: urchins of every colour
feed among weird and wonderful molluscs. Other larger animals that any
visitor must see are the sharks' favourite dish, the Cape fur seals. If
you are pressed for time, a short walk from the shopping complex at the
Prince Albert docks in Cape Town will get you your pinniped fix.
At
Boulders Beach in Simon's Town, there are the jackass penguins that waddle
about like monochromatic gnomes. Take a short ride south of Cape Town, and
if you survive the rather hairy drive along what has to be the most
spectacular stretch of road in the world at Chapman's Peak, you find
yourself in the spectacular world of fynbos (pronounced 'fain boss' ).
This
is part of the Cape Floral Kingdom, the smallest of the world's six floral
kingdoms. Now it takes a lot to get me excited about plants, but these
here knock your socks off, especially at peak flowering time in the
spring, when the proteas and the pincushion bushes are at their least
subtle. Running around this landscape of giant heathers, you will also see
ostriches, bonteboks, baboons and, if you are lucky, a fly-past from the
elegant national bird, the blue crane.
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